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  JW's are S.O.B's

  by James Mixon in

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  i didn't say it, it was the president....

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  @truthbknown: "Here's the biggest issue of all (not that any of this really matters) - Why would we want out national anthem played at the beginning of a sporting event?"

  I am with you on that. I have a theory: inculcating patriotism is no different from indoctrination in a cult. Hence the repetitions as much as possible, even in events (football games) where Americans beat...yes, beat other Americans, not the enemy. And quite commonly the players thank God for the victory. We are surrounded by cults.

  Instead of so much emotional indoctrination through pledges and anthems, we should do a better job at teaching U.S. history and World history. That will give plenty more reasons to want to be an American. I just sang the U.S. National Anthem in the ceremony of my naturalization as a U.S. citizen. The Anthem and Pledge of Allegiance played no role in my desire to be a U.S. citizen; my knowing U.S. history and having lived in the U.S. for many years did.
  
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  New, but needed to vent- thank you :-)

  by Danni Jackson in

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  i discovered your website this morning as i was trying to find some information about 'marking'.

  you see a very close friend of mine was 'marked' earlier this week and as i know the ins and outs of the situation (as we are close friends) i disregarded the talk immediately as i know my friend is obviously having issues but is no way a 'danger' to anybody else's spiritual health.

  basically they are dating a non-believer- hence the talk.

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  never a jw

  Hi Danni,

  Welcome back! Just don't be harsh on yourself. Your children have a great parent, smart and caring. Mistakes, especially those made when we are most vulnerable, are forgivable. You joined the JW's because you thought they were a good place for you children. You acted out of love and concern for them.

  My wife also married a non-believer and was marked for it. Before the wedding she got a talk especially intended for her; I know it because I was there. She was called a STAIN. Nice! I was the one who stained her. But stupid me, I failed to see the obvious until I joined this forum five years ago (18 years after our wedding). I was blinded by the love bombing, well behaving, well intended rank and file, but remained ignorant of the leadership, thinking that the humble brothers and sisters were a mirror image of it.

  Even though I have been an atheist my whole adult life, I was nonetheless fooled by the neat veil of the JW's. So much that I bought into their BS and accepted the possibility, even with pride, that my two children would become two shining Bethelites.

  The benefit from joining this forum is that I saw through the Watchtower BS and was able to rescue my youngest. I don't lose hope that one day my wife and daughter will give the finger to the Watchtower. If it ever happens, the process will be painful; all their friends and family are in. But knowing what I know from people like you, I will make my best effort to fill with love the void left by a deceiving cult.
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  White Christians Minority in U.S., Survey Says

  by jws in

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  this is from earlier this month.

  the opening line of the article reads:.

  the share of americans who identify as white and christian has dropped below 50 percent, a transformation fueled by immigration and by growing numbers of people who reject organized religion altogether, according to a new survey released wednesday.. the article is at: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-09-06/survey-white-christians-are-now-a-minority-of-us-population.

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  Integration?? Color blind society??

  Never possible, the media can't let go of classifications and tabulations based on race
  
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  Just a story to share

  by sinboi in

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  guy a and guy b were in bondage for a long time.

  during this period, they have endured a lot of suffering and hardship.. somehow, they managed to escape from their captors.. guy a was very happy that he regained his freedom.

  he put everything behind him, work hard and succeeded in building up a career.. 10 years later, he met guy b. he asked guy b what he has been doing for the past 10 years.. guy b replied :" i can't forget how we suffered while in bondage.

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  never a jw

  Bottom line: do what you are passionate about, what makes you proud. Do what makes you happy
  
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  Free to sin but still cannot bring myself to do it

  by sinboi in

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  have da'd myself nearly 3 months ago.

  now i am part of this world but i feel myself the odd one out.

  something inside me is still blocking me to do the things i have been longing to do while i was still a jw, such as attending birthday parties, sex, etc.... just last nite, i was on the way to attend a birthday party.

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  Sinboi "for my obsession with my genitals and sex"

  It's normal in most healthy males. It will go away when you turn 80. Be patient. Just another 63 years and the obsession will be over. No need to go to the shrink.
  
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  I have enjoyed the shunning in the past. But why not now?

  by sinboi in

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  i am prepared for shunning when i send in my da letter.

  my dad was furious when he comes back from overseas and find out that i have da myself.

  yes, i do regret not talking to him first before i da...i also know that my mom is crying in her room.. but they didn't chase me out of the house.

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  "She [granny] loves me a lot. I cannot let her know my family is shunning me. It will cause a lot of trouble to my parents"

  Sinboi,

  You are way more humane and caring than all the people trapped in that cult put together. You are a hero!!
  
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  interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit

  by Diogenesister in

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  ex-circuit overseer here, ama.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.

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  Dis-member

  I don't think you will get an answer to your question. What you see here has been copied and pasted from a different site. That's where the AMA session is taking place (took place?). You may find a link at the beginning of this thread.
  
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  I have enjoyed the shunning in the past. But why not now?

  by sinboi in

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  i am prepared for shunning when i send in my da letter.

  my dad was furious when he comes back from overseas and find out that i have da myself.

  yes, i do regret not talking to him first before i da...i also know that my mom is crying in her room.. but they didn't chase me out of the house.

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  Welcome Sinboi!

  You sound like you are in your teens. I have to say that it was a brave move to disassociate when you are still under the care of your parents. Good for you! The only problem with gutsy decisions is that they are so because there's great pain in the process. Do as Pale Emperor advices. Be the grown-up. Your parents in many ways are child-like and need patience and toleration. Take care of them.

  By the way, it sounds like your dad may not be a hardcore JW..."Take care of your mom". He may even be in the closet. Who knows. I see hope in your family. Take it slow.
  
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  Special Talks now via video

  by AverageJoe1 in

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  tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

  well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

  here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

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  My take is that guests will see the special speech on a monitor and will be disappointed, so they won't attend the Memorial the following week. Therefore the Memorial attendance will suffer. I may be wrong. Possibly people like watching religious speeches on a monitor. We'll see next year.
  
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  Special Talks now via video

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

  well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

  here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

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  never a jw

  Soon JW's will have 7 Jimmy Swaggarts in their living-rooms asking for money. No need for kingdom halls.